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Mangiafuoco Italian garden restaurant
Posted 03 February 2008 - 08:58 AM (#1)
Posted 09 May 2008 - 11:50 AM (#2) Jason
I've eaten a lot of Italian food in my life, and also own a small restaurant further down the coast of Jalisco. This place really does offer some of the best food you will eat outside Italy - I promise you won't be disappointed!
SometimesDavid/SometimesMiguel, on Feb 3 2008, 08:58 AM, said:
Posted 09 May 2008 - 01:57 PM (#3)
Jason, on May 9 2008, 11:50 AM, said:
I've eaten a lot of Italian food in my life, and also own a small restaurant further down the coast of Jalisco. This place really does offer some of the best food you will eat outside Italy - I promise you won't be disappointed!
I hope the service has improved and the terrible, over-amplified, live music has disappeared. I rarely complain about service. After all, this is Mexico and in addition, dinner is our main source of entertainment. The night that I was there with a party of five, there were only four or five other diners. Although the hostess was very charming, she was not very professional. It also looks like the kitchen is severely understaffed. (read: no help), so that the chef was doing all the prep work. As for the food, I don't know how familiar the people who rave about it are with Italian food. It was okay. Not, in my opinion deserving of such accolades. As for the ambiance, before they opened, there was a typical small kitchen Mexican place there that seemed to mostly serve the residents of the neighborhood. I didn't notice much change from the funky, backyard feeling of before. Our entrees took about an hour or more, with individual servings arriving at different times. Finally, considering the location and distinct LACK of ambience, they are charging top dollar for Sayulita. As I said, I rarely complain about service--or food for that matter--I'm writing because my experience was so different from the previous commentators.
Posted 10 May 2008 - 12:06 PM (#4) Jason
I presume also that the quality of the food has improved since then. I've travelled extensively in Italy over the last 10 years, and this season opened my own Italian restaurant about 4 hours down the coast of Jalisco, which has quickly gained a reputation as the best local restaurant, so I feel fairly confident in my judgement. (For this reason I find it very difficult to find good places to eat Italian food outside of Italy much less take the time to recommend them on a forum.)
I suggest you give them another chance Jo - I think you will be pleasantly surprised!
Also note that it is very rare for a kitchen to be so 'exposed' and really shows the sign of a confident chef. No pre-preped sauces or microwaves to be seen!
Concerned Joe, on May 9 2008, 01:57 PM, said:
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Posted 12 May 2008 - 11:00 AM (#8) Guest
Concerned Joe, on May 10 2008, 05:01 PM, said:
Joe, FYI the Shiflana band, the one you despise so much is not playing at Don Pedroīs anymore. In fact in the past couple of months they played less than a handfull of gigs. They only played on Wednesday nights and they had a small but loyal following(mostly older folks that have homes here). Granted everyone has different tastes in music and I think variety is a good thing in such a small town. Don Pedrosīs also has an excellent Cuban Salsa band(seven or eight piece with brass) every Monday night. People come from as far as Puerto Vallarta to enjoy the ambiance. Latcho and Andrea, a flamenco guitar duet, play every Thursday night are excellent as well and are very popular in the north coast area. I just donīt think you should generalize off one subjective experience and try to attach a negative label to an establishment such as Don Pedroīs. FYI, Don Pedroīs has been in operation for fourteen seasons, yet you wonīt return because you didnīt like a band that played there one night and your continue to reinforce your negative impressions to other people in the hopes of damaging their reputaion. Gimme a break. Relax man.
Posted 12 May 2008 - 05:41 PM (#9)
Posted 13 May 2008 - 11:07 AM (#10) Jason
Your misquote amused me - you don't work in jornalism or the legal profession by any chance?
What I actually said was "some of the best food you will eat outside Italy". Which of course offers space to the many restaurants around the world that also offer excellent italian cuisine. I travel extensively, eat well whenever possible, and I would be pushed to name more than 5-10 places where the quality of the food is better than 'Mangiafuoco'. I introduced myself to the owners the other night, we 'talked shop' and I came away even more convinced! The high cost of the food is because they really do use the best ingredients.
I agree good food and a friendly service aren't all you need to be the best place in town, but as I understand it these boys have really only just got started, on a shoestring budget, and to date, are relying exclusively on word-of-mouth to bring people through the door. It's a slow process, but I think they are at least doing it in the right order!
Curious to know how you get on when you return there!
Jason
Concerned Joe, on May 10 2008, 05:01 PM, said:
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